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Post by butterbean on Jun 12, 2015 11:27:45 GMT -5
love them, I like aluminum rods period, GRP, MGP, R&R, manley are all good, take a look at Dragcoverage.com there is a guy selling a 406 with aluminum 227 heads and roller cam, carb & intake, 400 tranny brake converter headers radiator all for 6500.
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Post by s10gramps on Jun 12, 2015 13:06:50 GMT -5
I'm not sure whether I'll go with the aluminum rods yet or not but I see there is some good stuff out there. If I play this budget right I may be able to squeak out switching to a power glide trans which would be nice. If I want to go that way the aluminum rods would probably be out, and something like this package would be in, ( www.shafiroff.com/rotators/sb_rotator.php) I need to find out to what +/- spec they balance the assembly to. If I don't like their balancing spec I'll buy just the parts and have my guy balance it, he gets $240. So the aluminum rods package I pieced together plus balancing by my guy comes up to $2500, so you can see there is a pretty big difference in the two packages, and I know you get what you pay for, just saying. |
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Post by butterbean on Jun 13, 2015 15:57:26 GMT -5
Ohio Crank has a kit with H-beam rods JE pistons 4340 crank fully balanced and rings and bearings for 2049.00 421 CI=.030 or 428 CI=.060 over bore, I like the 421 deal and with your heads worked over a little and a .650ish lift cam you will be in the ball park
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Post by s10gramps on Jun 13, 2015 16:42:57 GMT -5
I'm also looking at Shafiroff Engines kit with a Manley lightweight crank and Manley rods for $2195. Ohio crank has been bashed pretty bad on their quality control on their cranks they sell lately. Now you have to take that with a grain of salt because some of the crap you see on the web is unfounded, but when you start seeing multiple people saying the same thing a lot of times there's something to it. I'll be looking at a few different places and talking to people that have used the stuff to get their experience. I take it you have used parts from Ohio Crank before Bean? If so how long ago?
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Post by butterbean on Jun 16, 2015 14:03:09 GMT -5
yes I have and have not had any issues with their stuff, all SBC stuff is good stuff, other stuff I don't know about but I'm going to build a stroker BBF and going to use their stuff in my build
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Post by s10gramps on Jun 16, 2015 19:05:48 GMT -5
That's good to hear man, I went back and re-read the stuff I was talking about and $hit it's from 2012 and it was 2 guys, so that holds no water with me. So they'll be one of the places I look at for the rotator. I liked the idea of the Manley upgrade from Shafiroff but when I looked into that more closely, those upgraded parts don't come in a 400 main size on the crank only 350 mains.
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Post by triplenickel on Jun 17, 2015 8:46:22 GMT -5
I use their stuff & have had no problems. Know others that have used their stuff with no problems as well.
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Post by s10gramps on Jun 17, 2015 10:15:58 GMT -5
Excellent, thanks for that triplenickle.
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Post by triplenickel on Jun 17, 2015 11:23:39 GMT -5
Glad to help!
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Post by butterbean on Jun 17, 2015 11:31:49 GMT -5
they make spacer bearings to put a 350 crank into a 400 block so that's no problem
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Post by s10gramps on Jun 17, 2015 12:23:43 GMT -5
Yep I knew that, but I'd like to stay away from that option. My latest rotating assembly that I priced out is one where I'll buy all the parts from Summit and have my machinist do the balancing. As of right now (and this may change) this is the most attractive option so far. It's a Callies Compstar forged crank and rods, Mahle flat top pistons and ring set 12.2:1 compression, clevite H series TM 77 bearings (rod and main). $2237 plus the balancing cost.
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Post by s10gramps on Jun 18, 2015 12:03:43 GMT -5
I just got off the phone with the folks at Callies, what a great bunch of people, friendly, helpful, informative and above all not judgmental, I can't tell you how many times I've called a place, tell them what I'm looking to do or the parts I'm looking for and their first words are "oh you don't want to do that, you want to do this" any more when I hear this response I just hang the phone up and never call that business back. It's one thing to offer options but when I get the arrogant crap of you don't want to do that I'm done with them. So in talking to the rep at Callies I wanted to know if they could put the rotating assembly I'm looking for together and balance it all in one package. The other places I've contacted can sell me the parts but not sell it as a balanced assembly (Summit, and Flatlander Racing) Summit $2237 with a 10% off code, Flatlander $2106 plus shipping ($60) then I'd have the balancing cost my machinist gets $240. Callies will put the whole package together for me and balance it for $2270 and I can go there and pick it up and save the shipping cost. So unless I find something close in price at this quality level or better this is probably the way I'll go.
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Post by s10gramps on Jul 9, 2015 10:27:57 GMT -5
Hey guys, no activity on here in a while so I'll make some!!! I'm thru race 7 of 12 in the points racing series I run, made some good points last race but got beat by the points leader in the pro bracket in round 4. I can't buy a break in the sportsman bracket for some reason. The truck is running good but I was chasing the dial in from 11.95 to 11.80 last race the humidity kept going up and then back down twice in 6 hours and up 20% then down 17% so that had something to do with it. Now for my new engine question. I'm going to buy half of the parts in this tax year and half in next, with what I think is going to happen in the stock market well before the end of the year I'm afraid we're all going to see price increases in just about everything we buy and use including the parts I'm going to be buying. So what would be the drawbacks of buying say the rotating assembly and cam/lifters now to avoid any price increases between now and the end of the year. I'll be able to keep the parts in the house so there shouldn't be any rusting problems I wouldn't think, if anybody can think of reasons I shouldn't do this let me know. Thanks!!
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Post by triplenickel on Jul 10, 2015 7:55:14 GMT -5
Hey, wassup gramps?  I see no drawback to buying those parts now provided you're dead set on your combination. If you're sure of the bore & stroke you want as well as the heads you're going to use, I see no reason you can't purchase now!  |
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Post by s10gramps on Jul 10, 2015 8:51:32 GMT -5
Just racing that's wassup LOL......and yes that's the only thing I could think of too is that I'd be locked into doing the 421, which I am anyways, and the block I have is good. Now if something happened to the block during machining and it got screwed up, I'd have to get another block but obviously I'd have to get another one whether I had the other parts or not.
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I see no drawback to buying those parts now provided you're dead set on your combination. If you're sure of the bore & stroke you want as well as the heads you're going to use, I see no reason you can't purchase now! 